Matthew Walker on Joe Rogan:
Effects of Alcohol, Marijuana, + Other Points on Sleep
From The Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode #1109
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When you sleep in an unusual or new environment, one half of your brain will not sleep as deeply as the other
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It's a threat-detection thing
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Other species do this more impressively than us
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i.e. Dolphins can sleep with half a brain (half asleep, half wide-awake) ; ducks sleep with one eye open
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2 principle types of sleep
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1. REM (dream-sleep)
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2. Non-REM
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Non-REM is further subdivided into 4 stages (Stages 1, 2, 3 & 4)
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Stages 3 & 4 (the deeper stages) is where a lot of body repleninshment takes place
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cardiovascular, metabolism, etc.
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This is the deep sleep that your brain resists going into when you're in a foreign environment
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Quality of sleep is as important as quantity of sleep
- Alcohol and marijuana are good at blocking REM sleep (dream sleep
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- The brain builds up a clock-counter of how much dream-sleep you should've been getting, but have not been getting, and develops an increasing hunger for dream sleep
- When you finally get the chemicals out of your system, you get what's called a REM-SLEEP REBOUND EFFECT
- You get the normal amount of REM sleep PLUS the brain tries to get back some of the dream sleep it's lost
- Intense dream-sleep situations
- i.e. After a night of heavy drinking: After about 6-8 hours when your liver and kidneys excreted all of the alcohol, your dream-sleep-deprived brain feasts int he last couple of hours
- Intense dream-sleep situations
- You get the normal amount of REM sleep PLUS the brain tries to get back some of the dream sleep it's lost
- When you finally get the chemicals out of your system, you get what's called a REM-SLEEP REBOUND EFFECT
- With marijuana it's unclear if the speediness of falling asleep after marijuana is natural sleep
- physiologically different from alcohol
- Also disrupts REM sleep, we think at the level of the brain-stem
- Recovering chronic alcoholics often have "delirium trems"
- Because the alcohol has been blocking dream-sleep for so long, and the pressure for dream-sleep has built up so powerfully in the brain, it actually spills over into wakefulness
- They experience delirium -- the collision of two states of consciousness -- as the brain enters dream-sleep while awake
- Consider the lengths that the brain is willing to go to get that which it's been missing...
- Beware of "sleep machismo" attitude
- Don't be proud of being underslept, or think "I don't need 8 hours!" -- yes you almost certainly do.
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Men who sleep 5-6 hours a night will have a level of testosterone 10 years their senior
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= Lack of sleep can age you by a decade by this critical aspect of wellness, viritlity, muscle strength, sexual performance...
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- Don't be proud of being underslept, or think "I don't need 8 hours!" -- yes you almost certainly do.
- Beware of "sleep machismo" attitude
- Consider the lengths that the brain is willing to go to get that which it's been missing...
- They experience delirium -- the collision of two states of consciousness -- as the brain enters dream-sleep while awake
- Because the alcohol has been blocking dream-sleep for so long, and the pressure for dream-sleep has built up so powerfully in the brain, it actually spills over into wakefulness